June Bold chat with Daisy

Oh dear. We had such high hopes for justice. We had expected the baby theft plot would, as they say on Dr Phil, by now have had closure and we could have moved on to the next fiasco. But no, Dr Hooks is back in England putting babies from China on the black market. Zoe is living under a cloud of secrecy that is driving a wedge between her and her Z boyfriend. And Flo and Shauna are getting deeper and deeper into the doggie poo. Will June be the month that sees poor little Phoebeth returned to Hope and Liam? She is going to be one messed up, and traumatized kid. Yes, as Dave puts it, it’s been Groundhog Day after Groundhog Day, waiting for Hope to discover the awful truth.

In the meantime, Shauna and Flo have a new address, and will be slothing around Eric’s home in their pjs, farting, and eating toast with their feet on his coffee table. No wait. It’s not a pommie show. They will be sexily dressed 24/7 while Eric pretends not to be aroused. Shauna the Black Sheep will soon be causing problems for Quinn.

Wipes earned himself a downgrade and is now called Flubber. But Porkbelly will also do. He dumped Sally so he could get it on with Flo, but he pretended that the reason was Sally keeping secrets. Thomas is so crazy, evil that he should enter every scene with a “Bwaah aah aaaah”.
Bill has set his sights on reuniting with Katy, or is that rerereuniting? Brooke has taken a step back from seducing Bill (no doubt a temporary move), and has taken on the role of advisor. She and Donna have been pushing for the reunion of Katy and Bill, offering advice and encouragement, although they couldn’t agree with Katy’s plan to send Shauna over to seduce Bill in a honeytrap that would prove, or disprove if Bill’s love for Katy was a genuine as his tan. Will Bill find out about the trap and turn it back on Katy by letting Shauna see his boules collection? And does Bill even play boules?
Sadly, I will be leaving in a week, so I will probably miss out on seeing Hope get to the altar with Thomas, only to have Flo rush in with the truth. That’s just a guess. I will have to rely on ttvers here to be my eyes and ears. I know you will keep me amused and enlightened.
Cheers.
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Daisy

😭😭😭😭 I won’t get to see the outbreak of baby news. We might be able to stream the show from the US but it might be too far ahead.

Windsong

I still maintain that they wrote the baby-swap storyline in, without any clear plan to resolve it or end it. They just threw it in, and will deal with it at some point in the future when they don’t have anything else to worry about.

Comic book authors do that all the time (because the conventions of that genre, with never-ending stories, are quite similar). Throw in something, and leave it to simmer for a decade or so until you’re ready to deal with it, down the track. Having said that, the resolutions are usually dragged out, forced and awful. But the point stands, it happens.

Having said that, I am curious as to how long it’ll take for Eric and Shauna to be knocking boots. At the very last, Forrester Creation’s shares in Viagra just skyrocketed.

Daisy

Yes, so Pheobeth will be standing at the altar, about to marry Liam’s son.
“Is there anyone here who objects…..?””

brain dead dave

Perhaps it’s not Groundhog Day any more because Hope overhears stupid Skeletor and Hope talking about the big secret ,while Flo is being verbally abused for moving in to the Forrester’s dump. The curtain falls on Hope blabbering “What about Beth?” as the guilty parties better have an excuse quickly or…..it will all hit the fan. Will Sleletor have a plausible excuse for talking about Beth? ( Probably) Where would this show be without the characters’ silky eavesdropping skillz.

The sexaphones are broken out for Bill and Katie kissing.Prior to this Katie fesses up to Bill that she sent Shauna the sheep to seduce him. Bill appears not to care , he even “understands”. Whatever further amour is killed for the night as Will comes home. The clever litlle brat even knows what a “metaphor” is as Bill tells him a nauseating story to fill him in on the wedding planned. All the trust issues have been solved. You can take that to the bank.

Justin, Brooke , Hope, Donna have nothing better to do than gossip about how Dollar Bill’s test went. Shauna returns and puts them out of their misery with the news that Bill didn’t take the bait.

brain dead dave

That should be” Skeletor and Flo” in the first line, Boldies. Skeletor should have known better than to even mention Beth’s name. Cat is out of bag.

Daisy

Lots to ffd tonight, most of it the pukeworthy scenes with Katie, Will and Bill. Then there was the pathetic and ridiculous scene with Brooke, Donna, Shauna etc. The only good bit was when Brooke told them all that of course Katie would tell Bill about the entrapment, and Shauna did a double take. Yes Shauna, you should have read the fine print.

I am ready to be disappointed tomorrow as Zoe makes up some lie. And btw, Flo should tell Zoe, “No YOU leave town”. Neither of them want to get off the gravy train.

Windsong

Baby swapping be damned, that Forrester pit of infinite money is just too tempting.

Daisy

Too bad they didn’t sell Young Will.

Windsong

He is thoroughly irritating, isn’t he?

But I mean, we should stick with it. He’ll be in his mid-20s in about half an hour, and then he can start marrying all the women his father and brothers have gotten together with. And that won’t be creepy at all.

Daisy

I hope he grows into an evil tycoon who tries to cut his brothers out of their inheritance, and sleep with all their wives.

Windsong

Will and Hope, new power couple!

Oh wait, no, hang on. Will’s Katie’s son, and Hope is Katie’s sister’s daughter, so Will and Hope would be cousins? Half-cousins?

I need that flowchart for these people.

Daisy
Windsong

That was extraordinary, but it still leaves out a whole ten years of this madness.

I need to lie down.

Daisy

And take a BEX. 😂😂😂

Windsong

For half a second, I was scared you were going to offer me a lemon bar.

Windsong

So in a shocking episode, Hope spends another half an hour crying (about, oh, anything and everything). At this point, I’m genuinely fearful that the actress is facing severe dehydration.

Shauna knows about the baby-swap thing? Okay guys, 4 people means it’s no longer a secret, that makes it information. Besides, I like how Shauna knows that, if she or Flo admits to the baby swap, their keys to the Forrester millions will get revoked. Way to take the high ground, girlfriend.

Even when Thomas does put a shirt on, it’s a sleeve-less tank-top (that’s about two sizes two small), showing off his arms, chest and surprisingly-pointy nipples. He might be evil, but he knows how to show off his best feature. Meanwhile, that ridiculous letter from Caroline (from beyond the grave), urging Thomas to hook up with Hope, for the sake of their family? That was so contrived and ridiculous I wanted to throw something at my TV. Really, writers? Really?

brain dead dave

That was the best part~Thomas’s , lower than a snake fake letter that Hope appears to have bought into. All about family in this show.

Wyatt and Liam drink beer and discuss how to stop Thomas.

Skeletor, Shauna and Flo go straight back to discussing “the secret” in the walls have ears Forrester Mansion. Who will be next to overhear them jabbering about the secret? Yeah, leave the mansion and go back to Vegas? Sure , Skeletor.

Daisy

Oh my Gawd, how long can Flo and Skeletor keep playing the same song? And I would say they are all idjuts, except I guess that’s the storyline. The inbreeding has dulled their brains.

Flubberbelly tries again to blame Sally for the break-up.

BTW, Dr Phil’s brat today was “doing it because she can. She was high on her power trip”. Sorry Phil, you diagnosed her incorrectly. It isn’t fear, it’s because she loves the power of being a brat.

Daisy

You have an eye for detail, Windsong. I refer to Thomas’s tiny wardrobe and his perky nips.

brain dead dave

So nobody’s noticing the swinging tassels hanging from Hope’s nipples today?

Windsong

Thomas did.

Windsong

If “handsome dark-haired guys in their 20s with ill-fitting clothes and fantastic upper bodies who are secretly evil” was a category on “How to Become a Millionaire”?

Gold medal, I’m telling you.

Daisy

All I noticed was the stupid bit of taped that Hope had around her neck. No, Hope, that’s not a scarf.

Windsong

But Hope’s a fashion icon!!1!

Daisy

And Liam and Flubber are ladies’ men. 😂

brain dead dave

Liam took that too far and slept with his mother.

Daisy

😂 Now a normal person wouldn’t be able to look her in the eye after that.

Windsong

Adoptive mother, step mother, biological mother … you know what, forget I asked.

brain dead dave

Thomas watches as stupid Hope falls under the spell of his bogus letter. Little Douglas hams it up as he stirs from sleep and Hope goes to him like a moth to a candle.
Meanwhile , Liam and Wyatt are discussing what an arsehole Thomas is, Liam cut him some slack previously because of the loss of Caroline, but now Liam does his best to act as if he means business.

Quinn is turning herself inside out to make Shauna the sheep and Flo feel at home. They’re both overwhelmed with the opulence on offer. Feel free to put your feet on the furniture, says Quinn. Leave your menu with our slave/ cook. Eric glows to the freeloaders about about how much happiness and laughter Quinn has brought to the house. He left out about Quinn and Ridge in the sauna etc. Water under “walking wounded” Eric’s bridge.

Groundhog Day.

* Liam slept with his biological mother, Windsong.

Windsong

Liam’s about as threatening as a wet paper straw.

And … “* Liam slept with his biological mother, Windsong.”

Really? That’s … gross.

Daisy

Good heavens! Liam doesn’t want to lose his marriage but spends all his time between visiting Stephie in Paris and drinking beer with Flubber. Dickhead. Then, instead of being aghast when Flubber suggests a wife swap, he entertains the thought. 🤔🤔🤔 Hey, my emoji is a better actor than Liam.

Thomas doesn’t mind messing with little Dougie’s head if it means getting what he wants. But I am already looking forward to seeing Liam have to move out of Hope’s place. Hope and Liam can then look forlornly at each other at Thanksgiving.

Just wait until Shauna the Black Sheep and Flo spill their Chardonnay on the $1000 per sq m carpet. The Forrester mansion is so big that they always hang out in one room right in front of the front door.

Windsong

“The Forrester mansion is so big that they always hang out in one room right in front of the front door.”

Hehehehe.

Well, Eric probably prefers entertaining in the front room, just so he can keep the conveyer belt of potential new wives going through the house (and back out into the driveway) non-stop.

Daisy

We’ve never seen Lucy (or whatever her name is), the cook on retainer.
“So she still gets paid anyway”, says Eric.
The cleaner must be on retainer.
The gardener must be on retainer.
The pool boy/masseur must be on retainer, except for the one hired by Sheila to seduce Quinn. He’s back in Tijuana now.

Windsong

Or buried under the ornamental garden bed.

Sara

Oh you people are so funny and entertaining, such a way with words. Thank you!

Windsong

Why is Sally wearing a kitschy beret for her drawn-out break-up with Wyatt? Not only is she indoors, it’s like midnight.

Oh gosh. Does Sally have a cupboard, at home, for her specific collection of break-up hats?

brain dead dave

I missed it. Thanks . Sally gets a raw deal from wardrobe.

Windsong

You didn’t miss much. It’s amazing how much Liam’s, “Hope is breaking up with me!” face is the same as his, “I think I stepped in something smelly” face.

Daisy

That’s actually one of Sally’s more restrained outfits. The Spectra fashion signature has always been hideous schlock frocks.

Windsong

So, Liam and Hope’s marriage finally comes to a dramatic end, when Hope begs Liam for a divorce so he can go to Europe and be a father to Steffy’s girls, and she can be a mother to Douglas. Not that their marriage needed to end for either of those goals, but whatevs. It’s so frustrating, on this show, how marriages always end in the most emotionally-powerful, heart-wrenching manner … guys? Those Logan sisters have married so many times (often, the same man) that they could open a bridal-wear shop just from their left-overs. Liam’s married Steffy, what, three times? I would doubt that this was his first marriage to Hope. So who cares? You’ll all get married again in about thirty seconds, probably to someone you’ve already married twice before.

Meanwhile, Thomas tucks Douglas into bed, and reassures him that Hope will always be there for him. You could actually see the thought bubble above Thomas’s head, “… even if that includes chloroform or an industrial-grade padlock.”

Shauna is still prioritising her proximity to the Forrester millions over, y’know, the well-being of her own niece, while Flo has the same conversation about the baby-swap for the 5000th time in a row.

And I didn’t even care enough to remember what the hell was going on with Sally and Wyatt (other than wondering about Sally’s collection of break-up head-wear). Who’d have a thought a relationship based purely on nudity would end so quickly?

Daisy

Hope has completely lost her marbles (the few she had) thinking now that Caroline somehow had supernatural powers and had foreseen all things. She thinks her relationship is being ordained by powers from above. Won’t she be in for a surprise to find out it’s all being ordained by Thomas’s crotch. Bwaah aah ahh. How can such an evil villain have such a sweet little boy?
Liam and Hope decide to enjoy one last night of passion before parting ways to new marriages. Could that mean Pheobeth might get a little brother or sister?
And Flubber wipes his flat feet on Sally by breaking up with her and letting her believe it’s her fault, when in reality he has already fantasized having sax with Flo the baby thief.
Flo goes on and on again, yes for the sqillionth time about her feelings of guilt and her concern for poor Hope. She says she feels terrible for what she “did” past tense, when in fact she is still doing it. But she likes having Shauna the Black Sheep and Zoe talk her around so she doesn’t have to come clean.
Hope’s last words to Liam were, “This wouldn’t be happening if Beth hadn’t died”.
Something else for Flo to feel bad about while placing her order for soufflé with Linda the invisible Forrester family chef.

Windsong

“Flo goes on and on again, yes for the sqillionth time about her feelings of guilt and her concern for poor Hope. She says she feels terrible for what she “did” past tense, when in fact she is still doing it.”

Flo’s constant angst seems so hollow and fake. Flo, sweety, you’ve had ample opportunity to spill the beans. You could’ve told Hope what happened a hundred times, by now, but you haven’t, so clearly, you don’t want to. Now stop whining about it and go marry someone.

Daisy

😂 “Go marry someone”. 😂

Windsong

There must be something in the air, in LA today, because the cast all seem to be showing remarkable moments of self-awareness.

Ridge confronts Thomas about his evil plot to split Hope and Liam, and claim Hope for his own (why he wants her is anyone’s guess, but the heart wants what it wants), by telling him that, “Hope in crisis seems to be her new normal.”

Meanwhile, Hope explains to Brooke that she wants to end her marriage with Liam. Brooke hilariously responds by telling Hope how sacred and unconditional marriages are meant to be. I stopped laughing riotously long enough to hear Hope reply by asking her mother, “How many of your marriages were?”

And across town, Steffy and the girls are back, and Steffy says that Liam always has a home there. Seriously girls, Liam is king of the bland weiners, and why you and Hope have waged this long-running war over who gets to marry him is really anybody’s guess.

Daisy

You summed it up beautifully, Windsong.

I was just disappointed that Flo wasn’t around to hear Hope say that she was ending her marriage to Liam because her body had failed her child. She, Flo, probably wouldn’t have come clean, but she could have at least looked forlorn, guilt ridden and like she had vomit in her mouth.
I was hoping to see Hope find out the truth before we left but I am left as unsatisfied as Quinn in Eric’s bedroom.

Windsong

“I was hoping to see Hope find out the truth before we left but I am left as unsatisfied as Quinn in Eric’s bedroom.”

As if Quinn hasn’t replaced the entire mansion staff with handsome rugged men in their 20s, and put forward a strict “no shirt” uniform policy.

Windsong

I feel like, with Daisy out of the country, it’s our duty to watch these episodes just in case anything vaguely interesting does happen.

Not that it happened today. Ridge and Thomas continue talking about Thomas’s connection with Hope, and Ridge acknowledges that, yes, feelings can change and evolve. I was absolutely horrified, for a second to think that Ridge was about to confess to also having feelings for Hope.

Ridge then rushes home to have a steamy make-out session with Brooke. It’s not like this family is running an international fashion business, or anything. Back at Forrester Creations, Liam confronts Thomas, and even in full Papa Wolf mode, Liam is about as exciting as wet cardboard. He does everything but hit Thomas with his purse, it’s that sad.

Episode ends with Hope visiting Steffy and giving baby Phoebeth a cuddle, telling her, “That beautiful woman, Steffy Forrester? She will always be your mother.” Really writers? Really? My gosh, that was obnoxious.

Daisy

Oh thankyou Windsong. I am so thrilled that you are holding the fort, even though those a Forresters don’t bloody deserve it. I did hope that you would have a morsel of news and like a faithful St Bernard coming up a snowy avalanche, you didn’t let me down. 😍

brain dead dave

Thanks , too Windsong. I did watch yesterday but had an onslaught of visitors,

Yes, what a wimp arse Liam is. He should have belted the living daylights out of Thomas or better still in B&B style, shot him.

Windsong

Hope really is off her rocker, in terms of begging everyone she knows to tell Liam to agree to a divorce so that he can co-parent Steffy’s kids better.

Meanwhile, Wyatt goes to find his mother at the mansion but meets Flo instead (Quinn and Eric are up north on a romantic retreat. Ick), so they decide to strip off and go swimming. Do the writers literally have no idea what else to do with Wyatt other than, take his clothes off a lot?

The best moment of the episode, though, was Steffy joking that, “at how fast Phoebe is growing up? She’ll be saying ‘mama’ in no time!” Steffy, at the rate your kids tend to grow up, she’ll be graduating college by the end of the week.

brain dead dave

Cheers. I’m only ten minutes in. Still to get to the sexaphone swimming. Get a VD test soon, Wyatt.

Ridge and Brooke at loggerheads over the Thomas /Liam mess. Ridge is right. If something’s not working , move on. Brooke doesn’t like what he said.

Hope bullies Steffy letting her put Phoebeth to bed.

Liam’s and Thomas’s pissing contest continues.

The producers write terrible puns for the “actors” for sure.

I’m at the second ad break. I can smell a stampede of Groundhogs a comin’

Windsong

They never actually get to the swimming part of their swim, they just stand around admiring each other’s hotness. As you do in LA.

Brooke’s super annoying, though. If your daughter wants to get a divorce, just … let her. Isn’t it her decision? Clearly, forcing her to stay in a situation that’s literally sending her crazy is not in her best interest.

As for Wyatt and STIs, LOL. The entire cast would’ve picked up natural immunities to all those things, by now.

brain dead dave

Wyatt “borrows” some hideous bathers of Eric’s (“from the 70’s”) and he’s mesmerised by Flo’s cleavage display.

Ridge and Brooke are starting to fight over the behaviour of their kids. Ridge’s voice is as hoarse and coarse as sandpaper today.

Hope keeps rabbiting on about her cosmic connection with Phoebeth. She really bought into that bogus letter penned by smirking Thomas. Hope starts bawling again about “family”. She exhorts Steffy to go make a life with lame Liam. Curtain. Steffy knows Hope is toxic.

Windsong

I caught myself thinking, clearly Doctor Baby Switch isn’t the only doctor Flo has spent time with … I’m so catty.

Meanwhile, Hope is approaching the madness horizon and rapidly accelerating.

Daisy

And I caught myself reading all of your comments with a smile on my dial. You guys take a pig’s ear of a show and turn it into the crown jewels.
But now I need to try and erase the image of Flubber wearing a pair of Eric’s trunks. I am visualizing a toucan print.

brain dead dave

Toucan print is very close….but Wyatt looked 110% lame in it. We can’t do screen shots, unfortunately.Picture Eric in multi coloured board shorts. Flo brags about having a maid and the hugeness of her room at Forrester’s. Easy living.That baby secret bugging is getting lighter by the minute. Surely Flo’s had a boob job. Wyatt is suckered completely.

Daisy

Thanks, Dave. Flubber won’t mind fake boobs. As long as there’s a saxaphone playing, he’s in. It’s like The Pied Piper. He can’t help himself.

Never mind the screen shots. You guys are so good at creating a mental pic.

Windsong

“I love you Hope!”

And with that, Douglas takes the “Most Irritating Child Member of the Cast” award off Will, and runs away with it.

Daisy

😂😂😂

brain dead dave

Ridge~ “I’m looking at these little guys”

They’re both girls, you rasping idiot.

I saw RJ on an action movie the other night.

No one on B&B has hobbies….besides gossip about others. Meddling. How does FC make any money?

The sexaphones go right off as Wyatt and Flo tear each others (and Eric’s) clothes off.

Windsong

“No one on B&B has hobbies….besides gossip about others.”

They don’t, do they? Nobody ever takes the time to sit down and watch a movie, or read a good book, or even put together a jigsaw puzzle or do a crossword or something. They’re all too busy meddling in each other’s love lives, and having sex with their in-laws.

When Wyatt joked about his mother’s portrait, I realised that Flo is probably related to both Eric (and thusly, Quinn and Wyatt) by way of Logans marrying Forresters. Her aunt is is Brooke, which means Eric is her uncle (in-law), so Quinn would be Flo’s aunt through two marriages, which makes Wyatt her uncle’s wife’s son … which is her cousin (in-law).

Daisy

They don’t have friends. Bill’s only friend is employed. Brooke; no friends. Katie; no friends.
Only Quinn has a friend and that’s been her least convincing acting. I am surprised the writers didn’t have Quinn and Shauna throwing a pj party, complete with pillow fighting.

brain dead dave

They never invite a stranger to Thanksgiving and if they did , it would turn out to be some long lost relative spawned from a one night stand after a big meal at Il Giardino’s somewhere in the past.

brain dead dave

Hope buys the package of forgery and sleaze Thomas is peddling. She’s bratling Douglas’s dupe now. Curtain.

We’ll assume that Flo and Wyatt made the beast with two backs today. Albeit an orange , freeloading beast…….another doomed lliason in the Forrester mansion begins. No one at the door to eavesdrop.

Groundhog Day. Wher are you Dr Hooks?

Sara

What will Wyatt say when he finds out about Flo’s dirty deed, he will be devastated
As for Hope, well she needs treatment for obsession. It’s getting to a ridiculous stage where our tvs will explode when the truth comes out. Didnt enjoy watching Wyatt and Flo eating each other. Looks like she has access to Eric’s wine fridge, bringing out the champagne to have with food delivery, she’s certainly made herself at home.

brain dead dave

It’ll be sex on Eric’s piano next, in front of the Quinn portrait. Then beer fuelled bonking and Doritos in the holy Forrester matrimonial bed.They might as well shoot a porn movie on their phones there while Eric and Quinn are away.

Daisy

Porn movie? Porky and the Princess? Pudge and Pretty?
Flubber gets his philange off.

brain dead dave

“Forrester Procreations”

“Designer Debauchery”

” Blow job at old Eric’s Pad”

Windsong

You joke, but I see the potential in “Porky and the Princess”.

Windsong

I imagine Eric’s piano is grateful that at least someone’s having sex on top of it.

brain dead dave

Bad as it would be, it would sound better than Eric “schmaltz” Forrester banging away on it.

Windsong

I think being punched in the crotch would be better than Eric Forrester banging anyone or anything on his piano.

Daisy

😂😂😂😂😂 to all of you.

Flubber and Flo Fornicate.
Forrester Fornicreations.
Porky gets Pussy on the Piano.

Windsong

Now I’m actually genuinely curious if anyone’s ever filmed a porn parody of “The Bold and the Beautiful”. Surely, surely, it must exist.

Windsong

Wyatt finally hooks up with Flo, in the empty Forrester mansion (wait, where’s Shauna in all this?), while the saxophone player has an asthma attack. I wondered if the saxophone player was actually there in the bedroom with them, and then I couldn’t stop thinking how difficult it would be to perform with a musician three feet away from you going to town on his saxophone.

Meanwhile, Brooke tells Liam that she’s very unhappy with Thomas butting in and meddling in her daughter’s marriage to Liam, as she herself continues to butt in and meddle in her daughter’s marriage to Liam.

Finally, Liam returns home to a teary Hope, telling her that he talked to Brooke after Brooke tracked him down. It’s uncanny, with Brooke. The second a man in LA is single, Brooke can find him instinctively, like a guided missile. I mean, she could have a career in law enforcement with those kind of superpowers. Forget this fashion stuff.

brain dead dave

Is Shauna living on the streets while the orgy at old Eric’s continues?

Windsong

“Hey mom? Yeah, I’m going to be banging my cousin like a Salvation Army drum for the night, can you vacate the premises? Thanks!”

Shauna’s probably doing a pub crawl and looking for more lonely millionaires, tonight. It seems to be her one talent.

Sara

She’s gone to Vegas to collect their belongings!

brain dead dave

Wyatt is the one with all the baggage.

brain dead dave

Brooke ” You can’t change love like musical chairs”

13 marriages isn’t musical chairs? Her love lecture to Liam is heavy on hypocrisy.

Sexaphone wailing aplenty today. Please come home from your holiday unexpectedly early,Eric.

Daisy

I love it. You witty wordsmiths glean comedic gems from B&B like Heston can make a delicious pie from a rat.
It’s an outlet. 😂😂😂😂

Windsong

Oh, nothing says comedy like listening to Brooke lecture other people on the holy sacredness of marriage … (!).

brain dead dave

Flubber guesses correctly that Flo , while not holding back on the saxaphone fodder, is holding something back. The baby secret. It’ll be another Groundhog Day.
Liam goes to Hope , after Brooke’s brow beating and tells psychotic Hope he loves her. She chooses “the children” over Liam, with some pious lecturing of her own . Dark string muzak kills the saxaphone mood Only four minutes of this awful acting left.No post coital glow as Wyatt interrogates sullen Flo about her secret , she almost coughs up. then a groundhog gets her tongue. Curtain.

Daisy

When the truth finally comes out, and I am guessing it will be a potplantmoment, Flo’s only defence will be that she looked forlorn. Meanwhile poor little Phoebeth attaches to Stephie. Bring back the Grouper because Phoebeth will need a psycho psych.

Daisy

I have just summarized the B&B week for Woolif.
Wearing Eric’s toucan undies, Flubber took Flo on the piano. Flo looked remorseful when Flubs mentioned honesty.
Brooke gave a lecture on marriage fidelity.
Ridge ways in on Thomas’s side of the marriage switch debate. (Great idea for a show).
Hope looks pathetic and buys into Thomas’s fraud.
Shauna and Flo have a signal for when either of them is having sex in Eric’s loungeroom. Leave a lemon bar out?
And getting sick of waiting for a part, Ajay takes a role in a Western.
Can’t wait for tonight’s cliff hanger.

Windsong

I hope Dave watched, I was dog-walking today and missed it.

brain dead dave

I caught the last half, which was enough to observe that the groundhog is almost out of the bag.

Skeletor and Flo are still yabbering about the secret and guess who’s eavesdropping at the door this time? Zander.Dumb as he is, he’s heard that Hope’s baby is still alive and he’s in to interrogate Sleletor. Or is that a fantasy scene? The slo mo and audio echoes and unreality of it all make it appear as if it could be. Zander’s mouth will be kept shut, I’ll put next week’s rent on it. Those ajar doors do it every time. Zander knows Skeletor is a rotten little bitch now. Will he care?

Half Groundhog Day.

More brotherly sap with Liam and Wyatt. Totally there for each other. Wyatt used to root Steffy, remember?

Hope’s whining wheels are ready to fall off. Steffy’s trying hard not to strangle her.

Windsong

“Wyatt used to root Steffy, remember?”

And he married Hope briefly. Before banging the woman who’s married his own father 3 times.

Ah, those Spencer boys, keeping it in the family.

Daisy

Wipes has been married to Steffy AND Hope.And has slept with Katie, Sally and Flo.
Liam has been married to Hope and Steffy, not slept with Katy yet, wanted to sleep with Sally or Flo. He’s a saint. But he has slept with stepmom Quinn.
Neither have slept with Brooke.

Windsong

… yet.

Sara

Too many people know now so it won’t be a secret for.much longer. I read on one US site that the truth wont be out until November, so you’ll be home Daisy and ill be back from my os trip in Sept!

Daisy

Okay, Sarah, I apologize. I let my eyes slip and saw there was no spoiler.
And we both return in Sept. Where have you gone, if I might ask? Will I run into you in my travels?

Daisy

Sorry, Sara. As soon as I see “I read on the US site, I look away. I don’t know if it was a spoiler because I looked away.

What you can do if you want to post spoilers is this…..

********SPOILER ALERT********

That way you can still post and those who want a spoiler can still read it. As for me, I wait until Christmas. 🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄 🎁🎁🎁🎁

Windsong

I managed to catch today’s episode tonight on “Tenplay”. The old interwebs, good for something after all.

The entire cast is on my nerves re: this whole Liam/Hope nonsense. Every single member of the Logan, Spencer and Forrester families have spent the last few weeks stopping around to tell Liam variations of, “Try harder to save your marriage!” while also telling Hope variations of, “Don’t end your marriage to Liam!” and has any of it worked in the slightest? Has anyone suggested anything even remotely useful to either of them? Give up, you pack of morons. She wants to walk away. Short of gunpoint (maybe Taylor still has those), how on Earth are any of you going to stop that?

Meanwhile, Steffy looks increasingly like she wants to either change the locks, or just move anonymously and leave no forwarding address, to get away from Hope. Can’t say I blame her.

Episode ends with Zander — pretty, beautiful, dumb-as-a-rock Zander — overhearing the conversation between Zoey and Flo re: baby Beth. The secret’s out. Zoey looked like she didn’t know whether to burst into tears or strangle him with her own hair. Zander, you idiot, you should know never to confront someone alone about a huge game-changing crime they’ve committed. You’ll just wind up buried under the Forrester mansion ornamental garden bed, alongside Eric’s last few wives, the writers’ careers and the show’s credability.

Daisy

“Strangle her with her own hair”. 😂😂😂😂 Good line.
Quinn has tried throwing her victims over a cliff and into the sea. Alas, Deacon showed up swathed in kelp.

Sara

Well it surely can’t be long now before the truth comes out. Let’s hope Xander does the right thing. Lope will get pregnant after their farewell dinner, let’s hope all comes good before Liam marries, again, Steffy. Poor babies, so many naps and no play – its almost as if they are kept in a locked cellar or attic.

brain dead dave

Skeletor puts on the worst exhibition of crying when coughing up the secret. Xander’s eyes glaze over. Surely , he’ll shut up.

Liam wants to bang Hope one more time , so he orders an Italian dinner.Let’s celebrate the end of our marriage. Now I notice Steffy’s hair, it is as thick as.

Cute little Douglas is taken to Steffy’s creche for some playtime while Thomas sounds Steffy out about his plans for Hope. Kelly can already choose books for Thomas’s emotional pawn Douglas to read to her. This is sick stuff.

brain dead dave

Liam loves Hope so much….he’s going to end their marriage. The tears and flashbacks flow like an LA sewer.

Thomas swears to Steffy that Hope’s the only woman he’s ever loved. Steffy’s got her baby monitor going to be sure Douglas doesn’t assault Kelly or Phoebeth. It’s so easy to hate Thomas.

brain dead dave

After much ado, Xander is filled in on the secret and he looks like a groundhog dazzled by car headlights. Curtain.How bad was the Xander/ Skeletor scene?

Things are getting awfully sweet and gooey and Hope /Liam’s break up dinner. Not a dry eye in the house. Liam fails another acting assignment. You used to be my best friend in LA. Sniff. I wanted a family etc. Well Dr Hooks put pay to that.

That freeloaders orgy at the Forrester Mansion must still be going.

Windsong

“How bad was the Xander/ Skeletor scene?”

It was like watching a high school drama production. Really, Xander was the best actor they picked that day? It’s like he’s a robot who’s still figuring out human emotions.

Windsong

Tonight, on “Lifestyles of the Rich and Incestuous”…

We begin right where we left off, with Zander accidentally over-hearing Zoey admitting to the baby swap. Zoey immediately uses the revolver she keeps in her desk to silence Zander, and then drag his body into the alley behind Forrester Creations and leave it in a dumpster. No, that didn’t really happen, but it would’ve been vastly more interesting. With some frankly *stellar* acting from Zander (my gosh, man), Zoey confesses the whole thing to him. I was glad she told him the truth, because honestly, watching Zander try and put the pieces together on his own was painful. Thank goodness he’s pretty.

Zoey: “Beth is being raised by a loving family. She’s with good people.” Good, Zoey? I mean, that’s debatable, really.

Meanwhile, Liam and Hope share a final dinner (you know, before they hump like horny minks all night long, get divorced and then remarry again in six months time), while across town, Thomas brings his irritatingly-precocious child over to visit Steffy and the girls. Steffy reads him like a book but he admits that he still loves Hope and wants her back.

How cool are children who are so well behaved that they can entertain themselves, off-camera, for hours without any adult supervision at all? By gosh, Douglas and Kelly were probably doing vodka shots and playing Texas Hold ‘Em while Thomas and Steffy went over the usual Forrester relationship drama.

Daisy

Thankyou, Sara, Dave and Windsong. In between eating French cakes, as Marie Antoinette advised, (how did I lose another almost 2 inches from my waist?), I am loving your updates, be they scandalously accurate or hilariously cheeky.

Café crème et une croissant pour petit déjeuner. ☕

brain dead dave

Say hello to Rick while you’re in Paris. Pity you just missed Steffy and the girls.

Daisy

Last time we were here, I was trying to find the place where Quinn pushed Ivy in the Seine and Liam pulled her out. The latter makes no sense (as if the first part does) because there are no shore lines, just stone banks.
But I think Rick is staying in an apartment nearby. 😂

Where Liam saved Ivy.

Daisy

Where Liam rescued Ivy.

brain dead dave

Three different conversations took up today’s show.

You have the heart wrenching break up dinner of Liam and Hope….it goes on and on. Flashbacks to better times. They kiss but Hope is like a dead fish in Liam’s arms. She’ll always be thinking of him, though. No break up saxaphone. Liam can crash at Wyatt’s ….

Then there is Skeletor still whimpering what a great future Phoebeth will have with Steffy while Zander tries to talk some reality to her. Actor’s hint to Zander, try not to smile too much whilst talking about dead and stolen babies. Lucky there’s not a groundhog eavesdropping on this at the door.

Thomas is hanging around like a fart in a telephone box at Steffy’s , revelling that Liam is probably going to crash at Steffy’s (Hope already organised that). Steffy has some flashbacks of her own to halcyon days with Liam.

Only Steffy acted well. It was an awful half hour. Flo and Wyatt are probably still at it on Eric’s piano.

Windsong

Yeah, there really are some episodes you can easily skip, because absolutely nothing happens. Hope says goodbye to Liam (all the while having flashbacks to all the times she’d married him), and gives him back her wedding ring. My gosh, the rock on that ring could’ve sunk the Titanic. Meanwhile, Thomas continues trying to push Steffy towards the newly-single Liam, but I liked Steffy’s increasing frustration (“Will you all just let Liam and I sort out our own love-lives?!?”). Steffy was also having flashbacks to all the times she’d married Liam, so I guess a divorce just makes everyone sentimental.

Meanwhile, Zoey is still trying to explain the baby swap situation to Zander (Zoey, have you tried talking really slowly? Maybe a powerpoint presentation, or, even, a puppet show?), while Zander tries his best to emote properly (he’s on about 50/50, at the moment, so I mean, that’s a win, really).

Daisy

No one ever makes a CLEAN break in this show. They always leave with an, “I’ll always love you”. Well maybe not when Quinn threw Deacon over the cliff.

Hope is always dead fish. Zoe must be on hallucinogenic drugs if she believes that excuse for not coming clean.

I look forward to Eric wondering why his piano needs tuning. Franga caught in the high notes. 😂

Windsong

Sorry Daisy, I missed it today! I let you down :(. I was doing this high ropes adventure course with some of my friends all day (so I was bouncing around the tree tops of a mountain rainforest like an elvish ninja. It was so much fun, I loved it), and I only just got home.

brain dead dave

It was another day of Groundhogs.

Hoarse Poppa Ridge is visiting Steffy and playing with the one of the babies. He’s onside for Liam’s return and this starts him getting into a blue with Brooke, who’s desperate to save Liam/ Hope’s wrecked, dead marriage.

Wyatt and Flo are still at Eric’s and amazingly,with clothes on but Wyatt’s hot for more.. Quinn’s extended the holiday so more whoopee saxaphone is on the way. Flo says that on holiday Eric and Quinn have a butler each and a private chef and though she feels bad about the secret , luxury a la Forrester means she won’t be blabbing soon. Let’s bludge off Eric and Quinn time. Flo even goes to visit Hope and says nothing. Calling Shauna. Where are you? In an LA crack den?

Ridge and Brooke are arguing and meddling again. Nothing new to see here. Brooke has a killer blouse for the occasion.

No one’s actually running Forrester Creations at the moment. They’re ripe for a takeover raid.

daisy

Great recap, Dave. Merci beaucoup. Say it with an Aussie accent. It’s funnier like that. While you guys are kicking back, I was sitting in a café getting emphysema from second hand smoke while Woolif enjoyed his beer. It was the price I paid for going out and buying a nice jumper. Not Forrester creations. They fumé so much here.
Windsong, glad you had a day of boot camp. 🤾‍♂️

Windsong

Was it boot camp if I was volunteering to do more of it? 🙂 The course had short-cuts, or you could do the longer and more difficult sections, and I did one of those, and I was so proud of myself for actually making it through to the end.

Every part of me hurts, this morning, but I’m still proud of myself for doing it 🙂 . Quiet day in today, I think.

daisy

Yes. I was going to mention that. The soreness.
My sister is into those boot campy activities.

Windsong

So, now that Zander is in on the baby-swap secret, we’ve swapped Flo threatening to reveal the baby-swap 500 times a day, to Zander threatening to reveal the baby-swap 500 times a day. There was a hilarious moment where Pam charges into the room and asks Zoey to, y’know, do her job. But Pam *didn’t* overhear anything about Phoebeth. What are the odds? Meanwhile, Flo’s wearing a jump-suit that escaped from the 70s, and Zander’s acting is just terrible, isn’t it? Like, not even mediocre, but just, really bafflingly terrible.

It was funny listening to Flo complain, “If they learn the truth, I’ll lose my new family!” Your extraordinarily wealthy and impossibly generous family, right Flo?

Meanwhile, Carter the attorney takes annulment papers from Hope to Liam (who’s chilling with Wyatt over at Steffy’s place). So this guy is the official Forrester family lawyer? So every time someone needs a celebrant for a marriage, or a marriage annulled or dissolved, this is the guy they have on retainer? Good lord. Carter must be the richest person in the *world*. Like, we’re talking Bill Gates level of cash. He could probably buy Forrester Creations a dozen times over. Think of all those lemon bars…

Hope: “When you get married, you think it’s going to last, you think it’s going to be forever!”

Um, Hope sweety, have you actually been watching this show?

Daisy

They still wearing those too fitting tennis tunics? They look weird on adult women who aren’t facing down Serena Williams. Come to think it…they look weird on her too. If it’s the teeny tiny hot pant jump suit, I have to correct you there Windy. It’s the late 60s and I wore a fire engine red with a pink ribbed waist length top. I also had a stretchy yellow one that I wore with a tortuoise shell hoop chain belt and Roman sandals. Who didn’t in the swinging sixties. Wet look boots. Twiggy eye-lashes. Mmmm.
OK back to….
I don’t know any families as rich as the Forresters, but I wonder if it’s customary to bring every poor relative into the fold. I think you just have the poor cousins and the rich cousins. We used to get a bag of cool clothes from our rich ones, and a bag of not so cool, slim pickings from our poor ones. No hotpants.

brain dead dave

Thomas had to butt in to Carter and Hope’s meeting and make sure there’s a swift passage to his selfish plan. Thomas is full of groundhog shit, so easy to hate.

It’s just too bad no screenshot to celebrate Liam’s wimped out bewilderment when Carter hands him the divorce papers. This is after shagged out Wyatt blew smoke up his arse with beer about fighting for his marriage to St. Hope.

Zander gives a full blown recapitulation of the whole secret process but because he loves Skeletor, odds on he’ll chicken out on spilling. Pam must be as deaf as a post not to hear the secret.

daisy

Yes, Pam needs a hearing test. And where is, ‘lipstick on the tissue’ security guard, Charlie. Useless.

Has everyone at Forresters, including Thomas forgotten how he raped a zonked out Carolyn, who was his dad’s ‘wife’? He says that he has “always loved Hope”, but that can’t have been when he was besotted with Carolyn, or showing up shirtless in the kitchen at midnight to make a sandwich with cousin Ivy.
Still, the B&B girls aren’t spoilt for choice, are they.
Zander needs to testicle up.Or he could at least slip a letter in Hope’s letterbox. “Get Phoebeth’s dna checked”.

Windsong

“Zander needs to testicle up.”

That’s at least another two months of acting classes. I’m not sure we’re ready for that.

Sara

The doors are never completely closed so soon there will be another eavesdropper. So many people know so it’s no longer a secret. I could hit Hope for being such a sook and isnt Carter handsome with that beard -:wish he could find someone.
Have you seen Lizzie in Paris, Daisy? She’s probably in senior classes at the Sorbonne by now.

daisy

No, Sara. And it’s not for want of trying. No sight of any Foresters. 🤪

brain dead dave

Carter walks in on Flo, Zander and Skeletor once again jabbering about the secret. He’s suspicious but moves on , because he has to get Liam and Hope sign the annulment papers. Appalling acting from all concerned.

Liam and Hope declare love for each other. Thomas , the cockroach is hiding at the top of the stairs, listening to the whole shebang..

At the last minute , Zander busts in the door and starts ranting at them that they can’t sign the papers. What drama.

daisy

Oooooooo. So did The Cockroach (funny that word has cock and roach. Shrugs) hear about the baby too. It can’t be long now, surely.
I doubt old Honey Bear will tell Shauna the Sheep and I’m About to Vomit Flo move out.

brain dead dave

The meddling cockroach/ Thomas doesn’t know yet, (nor do Hope, Liam and Carter) but just before curtain scene stealing clown like Zander jumps into the room yelling don’t sign. Just after the soon to be divorcees say they love each other so much , let’s trash our marriage.

Thomas will look like he’s been hit with a tonne of Mortein when he sees his plan go arse up.

Half a groundhog is better than none. Zander and Skeletor were appalling. Liam stole the show with his emoting at looking at the papers. Who knows when and where it will all end.

daisy

Ha ha ha. “,Tonne of Mortein”.

Windsong

I recorded yesterday’s episode and watched it today while I was having lunch.

Zander’s over-acting is really something to behold, isn’t it? It’s like his facial expressions are moving independently to the rest of him, like his face is trying to escape the rest of his body. He tried to talk some sense into Flo, and just when that seemed to work, Zoey showed up and shot that down right-smart.

Liam confronts Thomas at Steffy’s place. Liam seems to have found a functioning pair of testicles (about five years too late) and, strapping them on, tells Thomas exactly what he thinks of him. It’s an impressive speech, and for thirty seconds, you can almost forget what a bland weiner Liam tends to be.

But that leads to a moment of unintentional comedy, when both Thomas and Liam show up (to greet Hope at Brooke and Ridge’s house) within thirty seconds of each other. They must’ve both left Steffy’s place at the same time. Did they carpool? Did Thomas hop out of the car first, to come inside and talk to Hope, while Liam was parking in the driveway? Can you imagine those two sharing a ride? Imagine the horror at just picking which radio station to listen to.

Anyway, right when Liam and Hope are about to sign their annulment papers, Zander kicks down the door (okay, he just politely opened it, but it sounds better that way) and tells them that they can’t sign those papers! They just can’t! Oh my gosh, Zander. Overhearing people confessing to serious crimes and then confronting them about it, alone? Showing up to thwart Thomas’s evil plan (while he’s listening on the upstairs balcony)? You are approaching “too dumb to live” territory. If Zander ever found himself on a mystery show or procedurial crime movie, he would be the very first victim of the criminal mastermind, I mean, damn man. Watch some TV occasionally.

daisy

Thanks Windsong. I read it aloud to Woolif while he drives across the French countryside.
Yes, Woolif and ZI sometimes have the same problem as Thomas and Liam.
I am guessing Liam’s a kind of Glen Campbell and Thomas is more Don MaClean. We are mutually appreciating Gilberto atm.
Let’s hope that over the weekend, Zander practices the scene where he spills the beans.

Windsong

I imagine Thomas is either going to shoot Zander, or he’s going to crash-tackle him off-camera. And then they have a wild brawl on Ridge and Brooke’s front lawn, wrestling around together on the grass. Maybe they start ripping their clothes off, and then the lawn sprinkler starts and … and … sorry, what were we talking about? I lost my train of thought, there.

daisy

Have you seen Carter at the gym yet. He is buff. Not my type. I’m a 70s girl. I prefer my men lean. Scrawny even.

Windsong

The handsome attorney?

I don’t mind muscles. But I don’t mind lean guys either. A runner or swimmer physique is nice.

But, see, I’m quite skinny, so I’m hardly in a position to be choosy :).

brain dead dave

Why shoot Zander? Going on his acting ability, he’s already dead.

Windsong

Well, it’s his mother’s go-to problem solver, so maybe Thomas inherited it from Taylor?

daisy

I have to say, Sara, Dave, Windsong…..(it might be the cappuccino speaking, and the Colmar sunshine…or my painkillers) but I really like you guys.
If that was wonky typing, I can’t see my screen with the sun on it

Windsong

Oh my fricking gosh.

Two words, Zander, you useless pretty boy. Two words is all he had to say. “Beth’s alive!” That’s it! But he waffled on long enough to let Thomas lure him outside, and then threaten to fire him if he did anything that stopped Hope and Liam from separating (and thus leaving Hope vulnerable to a corporate takeover from the evil Thomas). Threatened into submission, Zander drove away with his tail between his legs, while — for some reason– Hope and Liam thought nothing was strange about any of that, at all.

Unfortunately, Zander let slip that Flo had something to do with the secret, so Thomas tracked Flo down and confronted her. He could’ve at least taken his shirt off. If you’re going to be an evil master-mind, Thomas, at least give us something nice to look at. Anyway, the final exchange of the episode had Thomas shouting at Flo, “Tell me!” and Flo tearfully confessing, “Beth’s alive!”

Because revealing such critical information to a colossal a-hole like Thomas won’t cause huge problems at all. Meanwhile, that’s 6 people who know. It’s not a secret anymore, guys. You might as well just put an ad in the LA paper.

brain dead dave

Hope broke down and bawled when Liam left after his plaintive ” derr…I guess Xander’s not coming back”. No he’s just had Forrester rank pulled on him by his boss cockroach, Thomas. I guess we’re all calling him “Zander” when the subtitles call him “Xander”. It don’t matter ,he really ought to be called “Blander” with his no one’s home smile during the whole drama.

Thanks Windsong. I got a phone call for first ten minutes (hate that), how did the cockroach get from upstairs to hanging outside the door for Zander.?

Windsong

“…how did the cockroach get from upstairs to hanging outside the door for Zander?”

They didn’t tell you. He was upstairs listening, and then suddenly, he’s outside and he sets off Blander (love that)’s car alarm, and then threatens him. So either Thomas has a secret exit from his room (all evil villain lairs have one of those), or he can fly. It was awfully contrived.

daisy

I think Blander and Zoe must have been moved in to replace Nicole and Zende. You couldn’t find two more wooden …shall I say actors? 😂😂😂 No, I probably shouldn’t.

daisy

There are a few problems I have; beside Thomas and Xander not doing the scene nude for Windsong.
1. Why wouldn’t Xander, when threatened by Evil Thomas, not realize immediately that his job would be more under threat when the secret reaches saturation point and 10 people are in the head office, discussing it over lemon bars.
2. If Flo blabs to Evil Thomas, wouldn’t the smart thing be to go and come clean to Hopeless.
I had more but have forgotten what they were.

brain dead dave

Flo has in fact today blabbed to Thomas under some pressure and she said the magic words, “Beth’s alive”. Thomas will shut up, too, it’s not in his interests the secret (that everyone knows) “gets out”

It’s still a Groundhog Day till Liam and Hope are in the picture.

Zander doesn’t look smart enough to get a driver’s licence.

Windsong

I’m just going to say, thank goodness Blander is pretty, because he really doesn’t have much else going for him, does he?

Sara

Evil Thomas, and still the story is not out. I think it will go on for a while yet but rest assured that Thomas is up to no good. 6 people knowing – that’s no secret anymore. Where’s Charlie, surely he would ne able to solve this issue, with Pam s help. The yanks are more frustrated about the story line than us.