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Windsong

I don’t know if it’s true, but I heard on the radio today that last season’s Alex (of Richie and Alex fame) broke up with Richie and has since hooked up with another woman. And that’s fine, whatevs. But that’s three (count ’em, 3) bachelorettes from Richie’s season who started dating women afterwards. Was Richie really *that* dull? He can actually turn people?

Anyway. I’m looking forward to seeing Matty’s slightly over-protective (slightly?) sister have at some of the girls left this season. This should be fun.

Jayblossom

Cynic that I am, I’d be more inclined to believe that Alex dating a woman is more calculated than turning, if she just started dating some random bloke it wouldn’t be a cover story on a women’s mag. I’ve always believed Alex was only about ‘winning’ and publicity.

Jayblossom

Jen was so effusive in her praise for Matty’s sister in her to camera piece that it was immediately clear she knew that the sister wasn’t competition. I’ve not heard her say anything nearly as nice about any of the other girls.

Littlepetal

I am glad you pick that up,JB. Calling his sister the most beautiful woman is far out

brain dead dave

Maybe Jen is gonna turn, too.

Jayblossom

I’m not going to judge Leah for her job but I will judge her for her behaviour that has been shown on the show and I don’t like what I’ve seen. I liked Flo’s tongue in cheek “shocking”.

Littlepetal

I dont like Leah but tonight episode is set up to make Leah looks really bad. So they already know about her topless party and make a story out of it. The producers knew and chose her to be one of the bachelorette a d then make a story about her past

Jayblossom

You’re right LP and I would imagine the producers also told her to keep it quiet just to set up this situation.

Jayblossom

Matty’s dates are becoming more and more like his bucket list.

Windsong

I loved that paddle-steamer, though.

Littlepetal

This is ridiculous. Matty is not a baby. He can decide for himself who is genuine and who is not. If he cant then he is dump

Littlepetal

Why pick Tara to see how she will be with kids. She is a nanny, Matty. She knows how to be with kids

Jayblossom

I really am so sick of Jen she opens her mouth a garbage spews forth. Case in point “… so technically she kidnapped Leah’s child.” and “…. no children like Laura”. No, in an experiment with a very small sample size Laura didn’t immediately connect with a child she’d never met before.

Windsong

I particularly liked her commentary during the fight between Leah and Simone.

“There’s so much drama in the kitchen right now!” If I listened carefully, I could hear her saying, “And for once, I didn’t cause any of it!”

Windsong

I like that Laura won the single date. Laura’s just so honest and sweet that I think I’m falling for her a little bit.

Although, I gotta say, on the paddleboat? I did start to see a resemblance between her and Georgia Love. It’s fine, it’s just, we know that Matty has a type, now. Heheheh.

Meanwhile, I honestly couldn’t care less if Leah is/was/will be a stripper. I care that she’s kind of a bully and a jerk, though. That would be far more important to me, as a potential romantic match.

Jayblossom

Yes Windsong, that’s what I meant when I said I wouldn’t judge her for her job but her behaviour and you are so right she is a bully and a jerk. She also has a dn interesting reality (ie she tells lies) there have been a few times where she has been shown saying one thing to one person and a completely different version to another. My favourite bit during the fight was the when the camera panned to Jen with a really sour look – it could have been about anything but my bet is she was annoyed she wasn’t the centre of attention.
They always do a “chuck them in with some random kids and that will show what kind of mother they will be” such a stupid premise to start with. I was glad to see Laura get the extra time and she was so sensible in what she said regarding other people’s kids versus her own.

Littlepetal

Matty, there are a lot of things you dont know about girls. You need time to know each one of them

Littlepetal

Common. Hi Matty I am Leah. I have been a topless waitress.

Windsong

In Matty’s defense, he didn’t seem to really care at all about Leah’s past. He seemed far more upset at the fact that she’s been lying to him about being this maternal, much-loved figure in the house … when in fact, she’s been kind of a jerk this whole time, and nobody likes her very much.

My jaw actually dropped at Elora’s snarky comment directed at Leah regarding her conversation with Matty. “Did he tip you?” Holy damn, Elora. That was amazing. The look of surprise on Flo’s face, afterwards? Yeah, that was me. But as Elise pointed out, Leah is nothing but snark directed at the other bachelorettes. If you can’t take it back? Don’t dish it out in the first place.

Jayblossom

I’ve never been a huge fan of Elora but that comment was unnecessarily bitchy and unexpected. Flo’s face was classic wasn’t it. I’m liking Elise the more I see of her – she’s pretty normal and down to earth.

Littlepetal

There is something about Elora that is not right. I think she is acting big time. Not natural at all. To me there is more to het than the seductive look

Windsong

Given the focus of this episode, I can’t help but wonder how much nonsense from Leah we *haven’t* seen, since apparently, nobody in the mansion can stand her. Like, how much went on that we didn’t even see?

Having said that, I agree with you guys re: Elora. I found her cool and detached, and I said that from the very beginning.

I still giggled at what she said, though, but then I’m horrible.

Jazzman

It’s about the person not their jobs. It’s unbelievable. Simones right it’s her past

Windsong

I actually thought Matty’s response to Simone there was quite classy. He didn’t seem to care, he offered her a hug and then he apologised that all this had been dragged up.

What was more important was that he zeroed in on the fact that Leah had been bullying Simone … and he immediately evicted Leah from the mansion. That made me like Matty a little bit more.

Jayblossom

I can’t believe that they’re making out as though having worked as a topless waitress is equivalent to a criminal record for murder or some other serious crime. So OTT.

brain dead dave

Blake Garvey being a topless barman didn’t start a dogfight like this.

Jayblossom

That’s a really good point BDD. We’ve all watched enough reality tv that no level of hypocrisy should come as a surprise.

Littlepetal

This episode is so scripted. They know about the past of the 2 girls. Suddenly they made a big fuss about it.

Jayblossom

Leah is just an out and out bitch. During the fight she was threatening the other girls that she had stuff on all of them and then outing Simone to Matty. And wanting a rose so she could rub it in the other girl’s faces – yeah she’s really there to find love with Matty.

Littlepetal

Leah was a villian through and through. The question is was she paid to stir the pot

Littlepetal

When the papers have Simone being a topless waitress, she said was so ashamed of herself. Just another way of getting sympathy votes.

Windsong

So Leah actually admitted to Matty that she’d gone out of her way to bully Simone, in the first week in the mansion.

And yet somehow, Leah’s still the victim when it all goes south.

Good choice on eliminating her, Matty. You could’ve done that a few episodes ago, but you got there eventually, and we’re proud of you.

Littlepetal

Leah knew what was coming. I still think she was asked to act that way.

brain dead dave

These gels are throwing each other under the bust.

Windsong

You’d just hate to be the bus driver who drives past the Bachelor mansion, wouldn’t you?

“Damn it, why are all these girls throwing each other onto the road? Every year this happens!”

Littlepetal

Dont worry, Wingsong. Not many buses near the mansion.

Jayblossom

Well Leah, Matty woke up and saw through you. So I think he’ll be fine.

brain dead dave

Simone is practically topless tonight. Just saying.

Windsong

I get that Simone has been a bit whiny … but if Leah really was hassling her (in a closed environment, and it’s not like Simone had the option of leaving or getting away from her), I can’t imagine that didn’t have an affect on Simone’s mood. I still don’t think she’s the girl for Matty, but I do feel for her. Good riddance Leah.

Jayblossom

I’m hoping that none of these fame seeking drama queens get to extend their 15 minutes. I think they saw that Keira’s bad behaviour paid off with an “I’m a celebrity” gig and that’s why the cattiness is so high this year.

brain dead dave

I thought Matty was going to headbutt her at one point after the dirty underwear was aired.

brain dead dave

Poor choice of words to Simone, Matty ~ “exposed”

Geez, $imone , you were a topless entertainer, not a paedophile.

Littlepetal

Simone wants to be a model. So this exposure is good. Dont think Matty will end up with her anyway.

Jayblossom

Remember back in the first series, the final two or 3 had the option to spend the night with Tim, in the same room or separate rooms (they all slept in separate rooms) it was all pretty silly and they stopped doing it after that season.

Daisy

It’s what they do in the US Bach. It’s pretty seedy.

Littlepetal

Do understand about F2 or 3. But not when still 13 girls left? It will be explosive tomorrow night. Didnt promo talk about a walk out?

Littlepetal

Promo showed an overnight stay for Matty.

So all the early media talk was a lie. Matty said he will be selective with the kissing. Now he said he needs to see the chemistry.

Now the first Bachelor with an overnight stay.

brain dead dave

Matty’s sister will be there and she’ll bring his pj’s and teddy bear.

Windsong

And then she’ll tuck him in and read him a bed-time story and … no, this just got weird.

brain dead dave

I think it’ll be a story or cautionary tale from The Bible on what we saw tonight.

Jayblossom

Did the sister give a spoiler of the final three? “Tara, Elise and Laura are in the clear, no-one threw them under the bus.”

brain dead dave

We might just find out next week that one of them does phone sex, under the guise of “counselling” and this sends Matty into another moral tailspin.

Erin

Also when Leah was trying to tell her Simone had a past – she made the sister guess “from one the girls he won’t end up with” the sisters first answer was Elora. Then Elora’s “did he tip you comment” suggests she ain’t getting very far either.

brain dead dave

To the unaware, “party planner” could easily mean selling Tupperware.

Not after tonight……

Littlepetal

There is a wedding planner in the mansion. I think is Sharlene. Now you really want to know what does a wedding planner do or plan

Lola

I found this episode to be so judgemental. The producers knew some of the girls had a past.
I agree with Leah, there a lot of bitches in that house.
Really ugly episode tonight. . . and as for Matty’s self righteous sister . . enough said.

Windsong

Leah made for such a strange example, though. Sure, we shouldn’t judge her for her work history … but I feel perfectly fine judging her for being a mean asshole.

brain dead dave

“And as the last piece of clothing fell to the floor,
The police were banging on the door,
On a Saturday night, in nineteen twenty-four…
Take it away boys!
But poor Patricia was arrested and everyone detested,
The manner in which she was exposed,
And later on in court, well, everybody thought
A summer run in jail would be proposed,
But the judge said, “Patricia,
Or may I say, Delicia,
The facts of this case lie before me…
Case dismissed … this girl was in her working clothes!!”

~ excerpt from “Patricia the Stripper”

Windsong

What I thought was interesting was that Jen didn’t take any part in the proceedings, even after everyone else outed her as one of the “mean girls”. The episode was solely focused on Leah. Which kind of hints that the fallout for Jen may still be on the horizon.

Jayblossom

Yes, it right up there with “I’m just saying” as an excuse for poor behaviour.

Daisy

I can’t look because I am in Perth and won’t be able to watch Bach until I get home on the weekend. It’s a mother and daughter trip. 😊😊😊

Bobi

Not a fun episode.
But I guess drama is the way to go early in the season otherwise all those blonde girls just morph into one.
I might give it a miss until Florence goes home. Who the hell’s Florence, you say? Exactly.

Bolders

Sheesh. Has The Bachelor jumped the shark with this 007 Sister episode? Almost an hour about some secret build up to Leah’s background and how she was going to effect a major retaliation.
And in the end she hugged it out and wished the Bachelor the best with some throw away line about the remaining girls being deceptive. As though the role Spit-Shine Shine assigned her to play was genuine .
All of it was shite and the fact i watched and got agitated was shite.
Plus could Matty and Laura have opened their mouths any wider during that slightly awkward kiss – had a slight Kath and Kell wiff to it.

Also why does he like to cut girls off mid sentence with a pash? to shut them up? Because he thinks it’s romantic? Because he isn’t paying attention and doesn’t know how to respond? Because he thinks it makes schlock TV?

I despair.

Daisy

Hmmmm. Shut her up with a pash. I better not let Woolif hear about that one. “Have you put the rubbisgfmmwaaagggh”.

Bobi

Gaahck!!! Enough said.

Erin

Simone handled it very well – they barely know each other she doesn’t know where its going, there is no need to spill all the secrets on the first date. Not that I think she is the chosen one either.
And technically neither of them lied, they just didn’t tell the full story! Not an industry i would want to be associated with but its not like they committed a crime.
Matty actually handled dumping Leah really well – and it made Leah look even worse!
Leah has come out in her media interviews that she didn’t even like Matty anyway – sounds like she was just bored in the house – not that, i think that is an excuse for bullying.
I love kids too but I would have struggled like Laura with that group date too, its really hard to bond with a kid you have met barely 5 minutes ago.
No kiss for Alix, which I reckon means she ain’t in the running! Plus she kept bringing up other girls. I liked that Matty said it only takes one date for everything to change. Unfortunately for Alix, I don’t think things will change for her.

Daisy

I love kids and am always chatting to kids everywhere I go, but forthe camera would make me feel like a baby-kissing politician.

Jazzman

I think Leah being a bully should have been the issue alone. Who cares what they do or did outside the show.
I love how Simone rocks the halfup half down hairstyle like a 90s schoolgirl. It doesn’t have that slick overstraightened look that is popular now.

Jayblossom

That’s hit the nail on the head Jazzman. I’m pretty confident that 90% of the viewing audience don’t (and shouldn’t care) about Leah’s work history, that’s why I couldn’t believe they were treating it like a felony (comment 14). But bullying crosses the line of impacting negatively on the lives of others and should have been the focus.

Littlepetal

That was why I didnt like last night episode. Focus on the bad behaviour of Leah, not on her past.

brain dead dave

Three gels bolt from the mansion tonight.

If it’s Elise, Elora or Simone, that’ll be okay.

Matty’s such a prude… but driving like a playboy with one hand on the wheel of the sports car he had Alix in….in traffic, that don’t impress me much.

Littlepetal

So Marty is not such a catch that 3 girls walked out

brain dead dave

Before the nude calendars they did are “exposed” by Matty’s sister.

Surely , they’ll come back. Spare rose problems for Osher.

brain dead dave

I think that was Elora (the fire dancer) as opposed to Laura, who agreed comes across like a nice kindergarten teacher.

Hate to admit it but I’ve watched it twice. It’s better than being a stripper, I suppose.

Elora had no trouble coughing up the dirt.

Blake and Tim had both been topless waiters/barmen/meat/eye candy. No outcry.

Erin

I’m pretty sure she said Elora too.
Now she got a 2nd single date 😔 I was hoping she would get a swift goodbye!

brain dead dave

I guess that Matty is the last to know that Elora hissed “Did you get a tip?’ to Leah after Matty gave her a sermon.

The whole shitstorm is being rehashed on The Project. Loose Leah ‘s blaming late nights, alcohol and the girlie environment.

Littlepetal

Now I really want Matty to pick Elora and then his sis and Matty will be shock about her past!

Windsong

Jen is annoyed at Elora being “too smug”. I worry that the irony here is so great that the internet might crack in half because of it.

Erin

My feelings on elora aren’t as strong as Jen! But there is something I don’t like about her that’s for sure.
And this date seems very awkward!

Jayblossom

I wouldn’t have picked Elora for the second date. It’s funny that a few of us have an ‘off’ feeling about Elora. For me I wasn’t sure about her in the beginning but didn’t think she was horrible or anything but after last night I just think she’s a piece of work (and not in a good way).

Erin

I thought it was gonna be Tara or Flo!
Now she has a rose too 😔

Littlepetal

So with every date, the girl have to bring their bikini, another chsne of clothes and what else?

Windsong

Mouth wash, lately.

brain dead dave

Pole to dance on.

Jayblossom

I saw Elora’s bikini and thought they must have run out of fabric for the bottoms – it wasn’t a bikini it was a** floss.

Windsong

Elora – “I don’t know how this day could get any better.”

Meanwhile, back at the mansion, Jen is attacked by a rabid kangaroo.

Stacey

I’ll admit, I chuckled at Elora’s comment to Leah, but I still intensely dislike Elora. It was fantastically timed and was exactly something Leah would’ve said had the shoe been on the other foot. Anyhoo, I thought it was made pretty clear that the reason Leah was booted was because of her ‘mean girl’ persona and the treatment of Simone, particularly when she was so forthcoming in admitting that she liked bullying her. Matty found it a turn off, so would I if I were him. Leah’s opportunity to tell him was on the medieval date when she drunkenly went outside and fake cried to Matty. Simone handled it with as much dignity as could be expected, and to be honest she is probably one of the girls with the least amount of ‘stripper’ vibe about her.

Alix and Matty had no chemistry AT ALL. That date was painful to watch, she didn’t seem like she even liked him. I think we all know that Laura is the winner, but I’m loving Tara even if she does give off a ‘matey’ vibe. It’s really about time Michelle gets a date. I like her a lot.

Jayblossom

Elora’s taking it on herself to tell the sister about Leah’s work was way out of line. I’d be okay with her saying she’d witnessed bullying but the job stuff was repeating an irrelevant rumour.

Erin

This is where I don’t understand how Marty seems ok with that? After outsing Leah for basically the same thing.

Littlepetal

Another question. How do these girls, Flo, Simone and Elora get to live and work in Australia?

Many people couldnt come and live in Australia. Even those with a degree.

Erin

They could have dual citizenship/passports due to parents or grandparents.
Simone would be able to get a visa because she is British similar or Aussies can get to go to the UK or other commonwealth countries. Not sure about the other two if they don’t have passports…

Erin

I assume that has come up thou because makes things difficult if they are on a time limit on their time in Oz

Erin

Looks like simones parents are in the next Ep, so either they have impeccable timing and they happened to be in Aust, during filming or maybe they emigrated here.

Jayblossom

I agree Elora shouldn’t get to be on the group date (but I probably wouldn’t mind quite so much if I liked her).

Erin

Go flo! Cheat away!

Littlepetal

I like Flo

Jayblossom

Elora has a huge advantage over the other girls having spent more time. I think Flo cheating is hilarious!

Erin

He doesn’t seem happy that she cheated…. 😬

Jayblossom

The more I see of Matty the less I like him, how prudish that he was “disappointed” that she cheated at a stupid game.

Windsong

I too adored Flo for cheating. That was hilarious.

Jayblossom

I really liked the way she (Flo) impersonated the other girls when Matty is around. She just says it how it is without being bitchy.

Windsong

Yeah, I like Flo too. I hope she sticks around.