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Lola

Mementoes from home tonight. Seems early in the season to bring on the waterworks although I was moved by Henry’s story.

brain dead dave

I hate letters/trinkets/baubles from home. Off to The Block for me. Thanks, Lola.

Daisy

How come no one on these shows ever hates their loved ones?

brain dead dave

At least they keep it real on The Bold And The Beautiful , Dr.Phil and Judge Judy.

Lola

AK does my head in . He is so paranoid.

Brussellsprout

I actually think he is pretty perceptive! He isn’t relaxing at all.

Lola

What a croc, the super idol !
Producers running out of ideas.

Daisy

They had it on the US version. I think Tai had a super idol. It’s annoying. I prefer even chances.

Jazzman

Speaking of crocs google hasn’t convinced me there were no crocodiles in those mangroves!

Erin

Boring filler episode really. Excited for the tribe swap thou… Tribes are uneven so maybe going to 3 tribes of 5 or 2×7 and 1 off to exile?

Windsong

Episodes like this one always seem odd, to me. Sure, let’s take a minute away from backstabbing, lying and cheating to sneak in a few warm and fuzzy moments (and gosh, it was hard to watch Henry talk about his mother who’d passed away recently) before we go back to backstabbing, lying, and cheating.

In a lovely moment of irony, Michelle continues to be useless at challenges (what a great plan it was, you guys, getting rid of Kent and keeping Michelle), while being over on the pink tribe seems to have been good for Ben’s general personal development. Good for him.

Windsong

Yeah, it’s a shame Odette’s been one of the faceless cast members so far, because I’d definitely like to spend a bit more time with her before she goes home.

Windsong

I kinda like the idea of the super idol (even though we can be fairly sure AK is gonna tell her to use it against Henry at some point in the future).

But it felt like unnecessary cruelty, given Ziggy must’ve been there looking for that thing, in the dark, for upwards of 6 or 7 hours. And that was before the production crew almost burned down half of Samoa with the torches.

It was kind of a filler episode, though, wasn’t it? But Ziggy got a little more than usual focus, and I loved watching Henry and Ben absolutely smash through the challenge (and overcome a significant handicap. I feel like that’s a theme of the season, to be honest).

Erin

I am looking forward to seeing what she tells the tribe about the reward. Hopefully she has a better plan that Nick did last year!

Daisy

Bet they won’t believe her.

brussellsprout

I think you would spend most of the time (while hunting in the mangroves) trying to think of a plausible story to conceal your personal advantage. Jonathan specifically said it could be personally beneficial as well as helpful to the tribe, so you would definitely need some believable story. I wonder if you could say something made up like “at a future challenge I will be allowed to have a headstart – but i dont get to pick when, JLAP will choose for me” or something else (can’t think of good story!) that sounds good but isn’t too much of a target on your back.
By the look of the trailer AK isn’t buying whatever tale Ziggy spun.

Daisy

Whatever she says, they won’t believe her…unless they saw some immediatebenefit to themselves…and even then maybe not.

Jayblossom

Michelle and Tara are both useless at challenges. Did Tara manage to knock any of the blocks off?
I hope they’re regretting booting Kent because I think he definitely would’ve made the difference in that challenge.

Windsong

Actually yeah, while I was watching it, all I was thinking was that Jericho was carrying their tribe, at that point. Forget hitting the boxes, Tara was having trouble throwing in a straight line. Which neglects Michelle needing 3 tries to grab the key (which nobody else needed).

Brussellsprout

Michelle remains useless. And not very pleasant. That is all.

Carole Morrissey

Oh my God, that challenge. One minute the pink were leading, then the blue team were. Then they couldn’t throw the fucking thingies. Then the other team smashed them.
That advantage was strange. Having to look in the fucking dark, all by herself. I thought she was going to have to do a challenge of some sort to win an advantage for the whole tribe. I wonder if she’ll tell them what it was.
Finally a tribe swap. I’ve been hoping for a shake up.

Daisy

Michelle saying, Odette next, doesn’t know Survivor strategy. A powerless sole member is a number that you can use. But maybe Michelle, being so hopeless just wants to deflect. Odette is no threat now that the rest of her alliance is out.

Daisy

None of the families sent anything useful. Like a secret spy video for spying on conversations.

Windsong

I was waiting for, “This was my father’s cigarette lighter! Oh look, it still works …”

Carole Morrissey

In the US version a few years back someone snuck in a flint as part of a necklace but she got caught. Don’t know how that’s different to the guy who used his glasses to start a fire.

Erin

Of any, I thought at least Annaleise and Locky got clothing, which at that point probably would have been some comfort.
I noticed they didn’t show what Peter or Jarrad got.

Shellbot

Jarrad got some little book thing but yeah they didn’t let us see him give any explanation

Erin

Yeah i saw that, but i thought it was unfair to allow everyone else to give their story and miss two of them.
The same as they only put Kent proposing to his now fiance on tenplay.

Brussellsprout

Quite a boring episode in a season that got off to such a thumping good start. Not sure why the momentum killing episode, but st least Sunday looks more interesting again.

Daisy

When Tai had an idol and a super idol, it made him a target, but one that was untouchable. It is annoying. I just hope we don’t see one of those, “choose your own teams” again. Sure things make the game unfair and boring.

Erin

It looks like on the preview they are all given a wrapped buff so its random.

Daisy

It’s more when the outcome no longer becomes random or balanced but one team or person ends up with too, too much advantage, even if the way that initially occurs is random.

Stacey

I missed Sundays ep so I’ll have to hang around for the replay sometime. Mondays was cruddy – I keep forgetting Odette is even there. I wonder why she is not getting the screentime, actually Peter isn’t getting much either. Hmnn.

I had a laugh at AK deliberately annoying Locky trying to start a fire. It was so blatantly antagonistic and Lockys red angry face was priceless! AK reminded me of Ted from the bear movie – a short hairy slightly rotund lout spitting out condescending zingers. He’s great TV.

And they really should’ve aired Kents proposal, I’m a sucker for public romance.

Fijane

Late comment I know.
Didn’t the super idol have two parts – an idol that negates another played idol, and also an ordinary idol. So Ziggy could give them the “super” one and keep the ordinary one for herself. But she seemed to imply that she would keep everything for herself – so much for “we trust you”. It looks like she won’t be at all compliant in just handing everything to Lord AK. She was inwardly rubbing her hands as they were saying all those nice things while choosing her, with full expectation that she would favour the alliance.

Carole Morrissey

Well there’s another tribe switch, so if she’s lucky she will be on another tribe & get away with it.

Daisy

Constant tribe switching is annoying. All strategy becomes useless as producers and even chance take over.